Sunday, February 19, 2012

The Earth without Ken Russell is boring, unfair, baffling and...

... what it is.

We still have each other and our memories which is all we truly own.

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Anonymous Anonymous said...

And we have the films. I have a question about Altered States:

Dear Mr. Lanza:

I saw KR's Altered States on its initial US release and recall a scene in a college; a student mentions her relief at not having to take a course in Paradise Lost.

In the DVD, this scene does not appear. Could I have seen an early cut of the film?

Does anyone know of a mention of Paradise Lost in any version of the film?


4:24 PM  
Blogger Amanda and SuperAmanda™ said...

I have the Paradise Lost reference in my copy. I'll ask a few experts and get back to you.

6:24 PM  
Blogger grace said...

"We still have each other and our memories which is all we truly own."


7:48 PM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

RE: the Paradise Lost reference being in your copy--this rocks! Since posting at KRAS, I have been informed that Pasadena was one city where the first previews of the film took place and that the film then had some edits.

Now my next question is: what copy do you have that does indeed have the Paradise Lost reference?

2:31 AM  
Blogger par.nordstrom said...

Livin in da past & still be here & now ... can it be done ? Aye, all it takes is a VCR player or a decent Internet connection + a mighty muscular faculty of split vision ./ Memories are what man ultimately are made of . Memories + an occasional real life embrace .And a malt ! Cheers !

10:18 AM  
Blogger Amanda and SuperAmanda™ said...

Morning Anon, I've leant my dvd out but it is the one you can readily find for sale new at the lower price on Ebay-fairly current I believe. Cardboard case. Will let you know when I get it back.

Her relief is warranted by the way. In Bullficnh's Mythology that was (the PL Milton excerpts) perhaps the most dry and dull part for me. I have never ventured to read the whole thing but should.

6:33 AM  
Anonymous Anonymous said...

Good Day Amanda,

Is the copy you have of Altered States one you purchased in London? I am asking because perhaps there is a British edition with the 17th-century English epic poem Paradise Lost reference while the American edition does not.

Three people stateside who are quite the Russell enthusiasts have not seen or recall the PL reference, so if you would please confirm it on your copy when you get it back, that would be great. I will try to get the copy you indicate.

Russell may have been interested in Milton’s rewriting of the Adam and Eve story in Paradise Lost, not to mention the way Milton portrays Satan. Paradise Lost may not excerpt well—the Dover press edition is cheap and has oodles of useful notes in the back.

Let me suggest that, if the PL reference is confirmed, it would make a worthy topic for its own post at KRAS; indeed, it would be something of a scoop, I think.


4:23 PM  
Blogger Amanda and SuperAmanda™ said...

Hi Robert, I'm checking with an expert and will have an official answer for you soon. I'm almost certain that Sidney Aaron "Paddy" Chayefsky wrote the Paradise Lost reference into his script which was like his child for the duration of the shoot and he was at one point barred from set because he was trying to take control of the film. Like Ken, Chayefsky was VERY well read so unlike many who might drop the title for snob appeal without reading it, you are correct in how it was used in symbolism by the writer himself.

Yes, you are so right about Altered States/ Milton and other symbolism deserving of it's own post!!

6:27 PM  
Blogger Amanda and SuperAmanda™ said...

Post script: My Alterd States copy is a simple, no frills, no extras, region one. For some baffling reason, Region 1 and Region 2 copies always seem to have variances in content.

6:29 PM  

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